Jill and Victor bring on the anchor and managing editor of PBS NewsHour, Judy Woodruff, to examine the changes we’ve seen in the country while she’s been covering it for us. But despite our nation’s recent division and polarization, we have made it through tougher times, and with a new administration and a slowing of the pandemic, we all have a future that is slowly starting to look brighter by the day. In this conversation, we talk about the state of the news industry, the decline of local news, how to bring back truth and facts in news, Judy's time in journalism, and advice for young journalists.